Update 24 November 2013

Please feel free to join us for Christian Bible study this Wednesday, November 27, from 7pm to 9pm in the Think Tank study room of the Semiahmoo Library (1815 – 152nd Street)!

4 thoughts on “Update 24 November 2013

  1. I just noticed your Craigslist posting.
    Do you also teach about living forever in paradise ON EARTH, as Jehovah’s people teach?
    Most Bible studies focus only on getting to heaven. Heaven, Heaven, Heaven.
    Yet the Bible also mentions a different INHERITANCE.
    ‘The meek’ “would INHERIT ~~ the EARTH”, (not heaven.)
    It seems that only Jehovah’s people have no such need to get to heaven. Do you teach about living forever in paradise ON EARTH?
    Let me know. Thank you.

  2. Hello Gungun,

    Thanks for your message.

    The Bible teaches that the “heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire.” (See 2 Peter 3.) “…the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.”

    However, “according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.”

    God’s children will dwell with Him forever, to His glory, and according to His purpose. Sometimes we call this destination “heaven,” but that does not mean it is intangible… it is a physical world (a re-created earth) where we will live and fellowship with our Creator and our brethren.

    See also Revelation 21.

    If you are in the area, please feel welcome to drop in and discuss these things.

    Regards,
    Paul

  3. Hello Paul,
    You don’t think that some things in the Bible are to be taken ‘figuratively’ instead of ‘literally’?
    Since the Bible states that ‘the earth abideth forever’, might this conflict with the earth being burned up literally by fire? (The Bible does not contradict itself.)
    And just what is ‘the heavens that exists now’ that will be burned by ‘literal’ fire?
    And why would we pray for God’s Kingdom TO COME; if we’re planning on leaving earth? God’s will — will be done ON EARTH ~ as it is in heaven. Why get to heaven then?
    Does the ‘new earth’ really mean a brand new planet also called earth; since the ‘elements’ will be disolved?
    In other words is it really to be taken LITERALLY? or perhaps there is a ‘figurative’ explanation which many have missed?
    What do you think?
    Thank you.

  4. Hello Gungun,

    You are correct that the Bible does not contradict itself. You are also correct that some things in the Bible are figurative, while other things are literal; this is usually determined by context.

    I will not insist that the new heaven and new earth spoken of in 2 Peter 3 and Revelation 21 necessarily have no connection with the current universe. It is more likely a transfiguration of the old world, similar to the transfiguration of our bodies. (See 1 Corinthians 15:42.)

    What I will insist is that all things will be made new; creation will be redeemed; most importantly, those in Christ will be forever with their Lord, per 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. This togetherness is the essential doctrine on afterlife for the redeemed; it far exceeds discussions about here or there–such matters as we can barely comprehend. If I am with my Lord, why will I notice whether I am in this place or that, and why will I be discontent either way?

    How can I understand the new heavens and the new earth? I will not be a scholar on such a topic. Instead, I will rejoice in the Biblical promise of eternity with the One who is saving us! For such fellowship and unity we were created, and such is the essence of the afterlife for a child of God, whether he calls it “heaven,” “restored earth,” or both.

    As for God’s Kingdom, it has, most delightfully, already arrived in the divine person of the Son of God — Jesus of Nazareth, the anointed King who is already crowned and seated on His throne. In a sense, we are already ‘in heaven’ with this Christ of the universe. (See Ephesians 2:6.)

    Regards,
    Paul

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